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Author:  DannyG2006 [ Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: If PEP stopped suing?

The files on the sticks and discs have a code number for the songs that unique to the licensee, I believe so if they choose to, they can do an audit of the hard drives that contain the songs.

Author:  The Lone Ranger [ Sun Dec 31, 2017 3:06 pm ]
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JimHarrington wrote:

To clear all of this up:

(1) All of the GEM series discs belong to PEP. It has been that way from the beginning. GEM series licensees do not own the discs.

(2) 2017 was the first year when we had a lot of renewals due, and when we went to process renewals, we found that a number of licensees had discarded the discs. This is a problem because, as noted above, they don't own the discs.




8) So Jim did you sue the licensees for disposing of the discs that did not belong to them in the first place?

Author:  c. staley [ Mon Jan 01, 2018 7:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: If PEP stopped suing?

JimHarrington wrote:
... do you really think we would risk being sued by making extra copies of the GEM series just to make a few thousand extra dollars? I mean, come on. That would be colossally stupid.

And PEP is still paying off EMI for infringement....
I would call that "colossally stupid"

PEP promised new content ("getting the band back together") and took money from KJ's on a reservation basis only to end up refunding the money when it failed and claiming it was only a "marketing test."
I would call that "colossally stupid"

PEP's attempt at a "Prime" version went over like a lead balloon...
I would call that "colossally stupid"

PEP's "Sound Choice Entertainment" has withered into nothingness...
I would call that "colossally stupid"

Harrington himself has been reprimanded on a federal level and multiple times on the state level for unethical practices relating to intellectual property legal work by the State Bar.
I would call that "colossally stupid"

"Sound Choice" (Slep-Tone) as a company is out of business, it's legacy is that it's transformed itself into nothing more than trademark trolling operation that preys on the unknowing through the threat of legal action while it continues to pay off its debt for past copyright infringement.
I would call that "colossally stupid"

I've watched the best and most loyal customers ("sound choice cheerleaders") slowly either fade away one by one or go mysteriously and permanently silent as they've opened their eyes and realized all the lies and scams that have been perpetrated on them. Having your best customers that stood by you only to abandon you and distance themselves because of your own action, lies and "poisoning your own well" is something I would call "colossally stupid."

And finally, after the last 8 years, I've never signed a contract with them, I haven't lost a dime in business or client/venue because of them and I've never had to spend a dime on their "colossally stupid" licensing scams.

And I'm still here and in business.

'betcha didn't see that comin'..... :wink:

Author:  mrmarog [ Mon Jan 01, 2018 10:28 am ]
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c. staley wrote:
JimHarrington wrote:
... do you really think we would risk being sued by making extra copies of the GEM series just to make a few thousand extra dollars? I mean, come on. That would be colossally stupid.

And PEP is still paying off EMI for infringement....
I would call that "colossally stupid"

PEP promised new content ("getting the band back together") and took money from KJ's on a reservation basis only to end up refunding the money when it failed and claiming it was only a "marketing test."
I would call that "colossally stupid"

PEP's attempt at a "Prime" version went over like a lead balloon...
I would call that "colossally stupid"

PEP's "Sound Choice Entertainment" has withered into nothingness...
I would call that "colossally stupid"

Harrington himself has been reprimanded on a federal level and multiple times on the state level for unethical practices relating to intellectual property legal work by the State Bar.
I would call that "colossally stupid"

"Sound Choice" (Slep-Tone) as a company is out of business, it's legacy is that it's transformed itself into nothing more than trademark trolling operation that preys on the unknowing through the threat of legal action while it continues to pay off its debt for past copyright infringement.
I would call that "colossally stupid"

I've watched the best and most loyal customers ("sound choice cheerleaders") slowly either fade away one by one or go mysteriously and permanently silent as they've opened their eyes and realized all the lies and scams that have been perpetrated on them. Having your best customers that stood by you only to abandon you and distance themselves because of your own action, lies and "poisoning your own well" is something I would call "colossally stupid."

And finally, after the last 8 years, I've never signed a contract with them, I haven't lost a dime in business or client/venue because of them and I've never had to spend a dime on their "colossally stupid" licensing scams.

And I'm still here and in business.

'betcha didn't see that comin'..... :wink:

And for this summary I would call you "Colossally Brilliant"

Author:  djdon [ Mon Jan 01, 2018 12:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: If PEP stopped suing?

Just got wind of Harrington with another company, Bass Clef Holdings LLC. So.. not sure if suits are going away. Perhaps just being soaked up by what appears to be a larger law firm?

Author:  c. staley [ Mon Jan 01, 2018 8:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: If PEP stopped suing?

djdon wrote:
Just got wind of Harrington with another company, Bass Clef Holdings LLC. So.. not sure if suits are going away. Perhaps just being soaked up by what appears to be a larger law firm?

Trolling operations like we've seen from PEP are usually never handled by larger law firms. They are usually done by one or two attorneys that either can't find employment at a larger firm, or just think they can make more money by preying on those that don't know any better using some sort of legal-sounding technicality. I truly doubt that a larger, and reputable law firm would get near Harrington with a 10 ft pole after the multiple ethics reprimands. If you owned a law firm, would you consider hiring a lawyer with such a record?
Here's the corporate search from Arkansas, and this one has been revoked, so we'll see where he eventually lands.
https://www.sos.arkansas.gov/corps/search_corps.php?DETAIL=431261&corp_type_id=&corp_name=bass+clef&agent_search=&agent_city=&agent_state=&filing_number=&cmd=

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Corporation Name BASS CLEF HOLDINGS, LLC
Fictitious Names
Filing # 811066276
Filing Type Limited Liability Company
Filed under Act Domestic LLC; 1003 of 1993
Status: Revoked
Principal Address 6604 LONGWOOD RD
CAMMACK VILLAGE, AR 72207
Reg. Agent MICHAEL F HARRINGTON
Agent Address 3100 HWY 270 WEST

SHERIDAN, AR 72150
Date Filed 12/17/2014
Officers JAMES M HARRINGTON , Incorporator/Organizer
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LO AND BEHOLD!... he has started another one... under the very same name... in TEXAS:

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BASS CLEF HOLDINGS, LLC
Texas Taxpayer Number 32064966693
Mailing Address 2501 MAJESTIC DR PLANO, TX 75074-2837
Right to Transact Business in Texas ACTIVE
State of Formation TX
Effective SOS Registration Date 09/28/2017
Texas SOS File Number 0802825062
Registered Agent Name JAMES M HARRINGTON
Registered Office Street Address 2501 MAJESTIC DR PLANO, TX 75074
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Author:  Paradigm Karaoke [ Tue Jan 02, 2018 3:24 am ]
Post subject:  Re: If PEP stopped suing?

is someone about to get the SC catalogue?
Bass Cleff Holdings with a silent Slep...i mean silent partner?

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