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 Post subject: A walkaway by SC?
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I thought they were out to fight piracy.... so why have they let the casinos (and soon all the defendants) walkaway?
SC has (once again) failed to meet a response deadline set by the court. This time in Nevada and the casinos have filed for a dismissal.... which SC has failed even to respond to.

Unless SC can pull off some real magic with the court, their Nevada suit may go away entirely. As in "caput."

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ORDER ON STIPULATION Granting [49] Stipulation For an Extension of Time to File Opposition to [35] MOTION to Dismiss and [36] MOTION to Sever. Responses due by 4/26/2012. Signed by Judge Kent J. Dawson on 4/19/2012. (Copies have been distributed pursuant to the NEF - SLR)


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c. staley wrote:
I thought they were out to fight piracy.... so why have they let the casinos (and soon all the defendants) walkaway?
SC has (once again) failed to meet a response deadline set by the court. This time in Nevada and the casinos have filed for a dismissal.... which SC has failed even to respond to.

Unless SC can pull off some real magic with the court, their Nevada suit may go away entirely. As in "caput."

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ORDER ON STIPULATION Granting [49] Stipulation For an Extension of Time to File Opposition to [35] MOTION to Dismiss and [36] MOTION to Sever. Responses due by 4/26/2012. Signed by Judge Kent J. Dawson on 4/19/2012. (Copies have been distributed pursuant to the NEF - SLR)


*sigh*

SC has filed its substantive response to the motions. (See Doc. 43, filed on 4/10.) The other motions are virtually identical to the ones that SC has already responded to. SC has asked for--and received--additional time because it is engaged in settlement negotiations with several defendants. The additional time isn't needed to formulate a response--that response will be the same as the other one, and may simply incorporate it by reference--but to allow settlement negotiations to proceed. The motions will be decided on the merits once it is clear which parties are settling and which are not. The court is happy to give extra time for settlement negotiations because settlements reduce the workload on the court.

I realize that you think every perceived failing by SC is cause to rejoice, but maybe you should leave the litigation analysis to people who actually know what's going on.


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HarringtonLaw wrote:
I realize that you think every perceived failing by SC is cause to rejoice, but maybe you should leave the litigation analysis to people who actually know what's going on.


Do you see any "rejoicing" going on? (Couldn't resist another slam could you?)

I'm simply questioning why SC is missing deadlines that they are fully aware of?

I know you'd like to deflect SC's failure to follow the court's deadline as though it's something I've either made up, or am dancing over. Nice try.

If your client is so interested in stopping piracy, why do they appear to be missing the simplest calendar events? I see no extension of time ordered by the court so perhaps you can show us where the court has agreed with your extension?

I know, here comes the excuse: "this case is not my area of responsibility" or something else like an incompetent or rogue attorney....

Perhaps the reason that others (such as myself) are even bothering to follow this Keystone Cop event is because we really can't rely that what we're being told by the "people who actually know what's going on" is anywhere close to factual.


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Chip, you remind me so much of conspiracy theorists, it's ridiculous. You won't be happy until everyone thinks your way, regardless of what the FACTS are. The JFK, 9/11, and the manned moon missions CTs are waiting for someone like you.

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Chip, you remind me so much of conspiracy theorists, it's ridiculous. You won't be happy until everyone thinks your way, regardless of what the FACTS are. The JFK, 9/11, and the manned moon missions CTs are waiting for someone like you.

Nice try timberlea but I'm not trying to "make" anyone "think my way." You - and everyone else are welcome to think whatever they want.

What "facts" are you (once again) failing to present to make your statements have even a semblance of validity? Do you have some copy of an order by the court extending time? Do you have the famous missing "investigative report?" Anything at all?

If you do then cough it up. I've always been very upfront with proof and documents to back it while you do nothing but offered links to laws you don't understand.

Otherwise, it looks like defendants will be attaching themselves to the dismissal as quick as they can....


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c. staley wrote:
Do you see any "rejoicing" going on?


Isn't that why you created the thread in the first place?


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Chip, you remind me so much of conspiracy theorists, it's ridiculous. You won't be happy until everyone thinks your way, regardless of what the FACTS are. The JFK, 9/11, and the manned moon missions CTs are waiting for someone like you.

Actually, anyone who does NOT question the JFK assassination is a naive fool. The evidence speaks for itself, especially the Zapruder film. A shot from behind isn't going to send a person backwards, blowing out the BACK of someone's head.

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c. staley wrote:
Do you see any "rejoicing" going on?


Isn't that why you created the thread in the first place?


Nope.


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c. staley wrote:
I'm simply questioning why SC is missing deadlines that they are fully aware of?

I know you'd like to deflect SC's failure to follow the court's deadline as though it's something I've either made up, or am dancing over. Nice try.

If your client is so interested in stopping piracy, why do they appear to be missing the simplest calendar events? I see no extension of time ordered by the court so perhaps you can show us where the court has agreed with your extension?


I don't think you are the one making it up. I think you're reading a blogger who's dead-on certain he knows what's going on despite not being involved in the slightest.

The attorneys handling that case have it well in hand. They have made a response that the court will consider. There are not any missed calendar events of consequence, and sadly--for you--the motions are not going to be granted by default.


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Smooth, it has been replicated (the shots)many times and physics and ballistics prove it. I suggest you watch Discovery's "JFK: Inside The Target Car". The Zupruder film in fact proves the shots, the first striking JFK's neck exiting the throat into Connolly, the second missing, and the third to the back of the head. Nothing magical about it, just a tragedy.

Chip, I'll go with James until YOU PROVE otherwise.

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timberlea wrote:
Smooth, it has been replicated (the shots)many times and physics and ballistics prove it. I suggest you watch Discovery's "JFK: Inside The Target Car". The Zupruder film in fact proves the shots, the first striking JFK's neck exiting the throat into Connolly, the second missing, and the third to the back of the head. Nothing magical about it, just a tragedy.

Chip, I'll go with James until YOU PROVE otherwise.

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HarringtonLaw wrote:
I don't think you are the one making it up. I think you're reading a blogger who's dead-on certain he knows what's going on despite not being involved in the slightest.

Nope. I have a pacer account thanks.... I know when the order was made and what was filed up to the deadline.

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The attorneys handling that case have it well in hand. They have made a response that the court will consider. There are not any missed calendar events of consequence, and sadly--for you--the motions are not going to be granted by default.


Of consequence? So, let's put it out in the open rather than couch it in your favorite word games; they missed the deadline pure and simple. Your feeble attempt to minimize it doesn't change the fact that it was missed. And that was my point: if this is all so simple for SC, why are they being this (again) sloppy?

Does SC's legal team own a pen and a paper calendar?

There's no excuse for missing a deadline with the court. Even if it's to simply ask for more time. Any excuse is just that -- an excuse.


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Chip, I'll go with James until YOU PROVE otherwise.

Typical response: Spin the responsibility of proof on anyone other than yourself because you can't under any circumstances. As they say; "Your mouth is writing checks....."

How predictable timberlea.

Nice try.


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c. staley wrote:
if this is all so simple for SC, why are they being this (again) sloppy?


Because they want to give you false hope, so that your dream that SC is finally put out of business will be crushed once again.


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As far as many people are concerned; Sound Choice has been out of the karaoke business for years. They used to be number one but they they are number NONE.

THEY SEEM TO BE IN THE SHAKEDOWN BUSINESS NOW

And when someone with deeper pockets stands up to them; they miss a filing date and let the case get dismissed because if it goes to court and they lose???????? They might have to find a new way to screw their former customers.


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c. staley wrote:
if this is all so simple for SC, why are they being this (again) sloppy?


Because they want to give you false hope, so that your dream that SC is finally put out of business will be crushed once again.

Aw, shucks! I didn't know they cared!

Hey! how's that license transfer investigation from the publishers that you mentioned coming along for Digitrax Recovery?

Or is it "Piracy Entertainment?" it's very confusing you know.....


And, on a serious note:

Would you recommend any KJ's purchasing large hard drives from the Soon-to-be-gone-Chartbuster? I know there are a few that want to purchase before the 10th....

Seems too risky to me.....


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You can no longer buy the drives. I am a little concerned about my purchase, though I did manage to get the certificate. Just wonder what will be coming at renewal time, if I will get anything out of it as promised by CB and if I will be investigated since I was certified without an audit and now a "new" company is responsible. Not that I won't pass any audit but I am not really looking forward to any hassles for my one night a week business. I better look for work for my other two free nights of the week to make it worth the trouble.


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SC isn't backing off on the legal actions, or the piracy, at least according to Chris Emrie at SC.
I was also suprised at his disdain for CB. Almost vile. Interesting......


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c. staley wrote:
Hey! how's that license transfer investigation from the publishers that you mentioned coming along for Digitrax Recovery?

Or is it "Piracy Entertainment?" it's very confusing you know.....


I have no idea what you might be referring to.

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And, on a serious note:

Would you recommend any KJ's purchasing large hard drives from the Soon-to-be-gone-Chartbuster? I know there are a few that want to purchase before the 10th....

Seems too risky to me.....


I didn't think those were still available, but I have no information on the legality of such drives, and I do not represent the entity that put them out.


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c. staley wrote:
And, on a serious note:

Would you recommend any KJ's purchasing large hard drives from the Soon-to-be-gone-Chartbuster? I know there are a few that want to purchase before the 10th....

Seems too risky to me.....

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I didn't think those were still available, but I have no information on the legality of such drives, and I do not represent the entity that put them out.

Do you represent the "ENTITY" that (in several people's opinion here) plans to start suing those that do own these hard drives that were sold by CB?


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